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::::::A little research may be helpful. Ask your Oriental friends if they are often called that and what they feel. [[User:Richard Jensen|Richard Jensen]] 11:19, 19 July 2007 (CDT)
::::::A little research may be helpful. Ask your Oriental friends if they are often called that and what they feel. [[User:Richard Jensen|Richard Jensen]] 11:19, 19 July 2007 (CDT)


:::::::I'm quite sure that [julie.nesbittontheweb.com my wife of twenty years], and Yim Kai-mum have done extensive field studies. (Incidentally, my wife agrees with me but she thinks I'm wasting WAY too much time arguing the point.  That's why I'm arguing, because most people like my wife and like Yim, don't bother to take up the banner despite the fact they disagree.) [[User:Will Nesbitt|Will Nesbitt]] 16:25, 19 July 2007 (CDT)
:::::::I'm quite sure that [http://julie.nesbittontheweb.com my wife of twenty years], and Yim Kai-mum have done extensive field studies. (Incidentally, my wife agrees with me but she thinks I'm wasting WAY too much time arguing the point.  That's why I'm arguing, because most people like my wife and like Yim, don't bother to take up the banner despite the fact they disagree.) [[User:Will Nesbitt|Will Nesbitt]] 16:25, 19 July 2007 (CDT)

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Thanks

Thanks for including the chart on the child abuse page. It looks more professional now. Mike Mayors (Talk) 17:06, 8 June 2007 (CDT)

What a co-incidence! I'm here to say the same thing. Could you look around for similar stuff from other countries? Nancy Sculerati 17:08, 8 June 2007 (CDT)

Sci-fi

Yup, that is I. Glad to see someone about to do some SF stuff. "Brave New World" is one of those curious cases of books that are obviously SF but because they are written by "serious" writers are sometimes not considered to be *real* SF. By the way, lots of SF fans (and, I suppose, some SF writers) *hate* the term sci-fi, don't ask me why. They have a reason, supposedly, but I forget what it is. Personally I don't give a hoot. I myself never use it, mostly because SF (or S.F. or sf or s.f.) is shorter. Cheers! Hayford Peirce 19:39, 9 June 2007 (CDT)

Apple picture

Is the image blurry as a result of post-editing or was it originally taken that way?--Robert W King 12:23, 14 June 2007 (CDT)

See picture I just uploaded.--Robert W King 13:10, 14 June 2007 (CDT)

Food porn

Probably, because it's such a nice photo! Hayford Peirce 17:16, 14 June 2007 (CDT)

Geez, I have no idea at all. This whole image thing is a total mystery to me. Better ask Stephen, he's the expert on this stuff.... Hayford Peirce 17:39, 14 June 2007 (CDT)

Alcohol

Hi - saw your edit summary on Martini and I agree - have suggested on the new workgroups request page that an Alcohol group be set up. Regards, Anton Sweeney 18:49, 14 June 2007 (CDT)

A Culinary Arts Workgroups is, I think, a better idea. Bartending would be a subset of that. Stephen Ewen 15:21, 24 June 2007 (CDT)

Creative Commons licensces

I'm not sure what the differences are, but obviously creative commons felt there was a need to revise something.--Robert W King 09:12, 18 June 2007 (CDT)

Virginia Image

Please supply the original image to me, if you could.--Robert W King 12:37, 20 June 2007 (CDT)

Sure. Robert.William.King (the symbol above the '2' key) gmail dot com
Replied, with image edits. Let me know if you think they're improved. --Robert W King 13:55, 20 June 2007 (CDT)
Gah, I just screwed something up, or the wrong file got uploaded.--Robert W King 12:31, 21 June 2007 (CDT)
I'm going to leave a message on Stephen Ewen's page to fix it to the correct version on the image's talk page. I really hosed up the entry. Apologies! --Robert W King 12:44, 21 June 2007 (CDT)

Abortion Article

You posted on my personal page that you are interested in publishing about abortion, and asked if I am interested in supporting that. My answer is YES ! I saw you published on the Kentucky and Virginia Resolutions, and loved what you started there. In my opinion one major argument against such false personal freedoms is that past lovers of freedom spent so much effort on providing freedom to the yet unborn. In fact if you read Luke 1:54-55, (Mary's song upon learning she will be the unwed mother of the Messiah), you discover His purpose was partly mercy to the unborn future generations. I've published about that on my blog, as you may have seen. PS, you can call me Tim. How should I address you? DefendOthers.blogspot.com--Tim McCully 20:11, 23 June 2007 (CDT)

the anti-abortion policy is not Biblical. It comes out of Roman Catholic tradition (mostly 19th century), and was adopted by some Protestants after 1970. Richard Jensen 20:54, 23 June 2007 (CDT)
Anti-abortion law begins with Exodus 21:22, the oldest reference to the Mosaic law principle "an eye for an eye, a life for a life". That oldest reference is part of Exodus 21-24, which is God's explanation of how the Ten Commandments (Exodus 20) are to be applied because He is the only God, and He stands for truly equal justice toward all human life. In Exo 21:22 God is giving the principle applied to how an unborn human being may be injured by accident, and the principle applied to a man who caused injury to the mother of the unborn person. Actual anti-abortion law is merely application of equal justice toward unborn human beings. The fact that abortion normally involves the consent of the mother would not mitigate the guilt of the abortionist.

Another far older reference to anti-abortion policy would have to include the Hippocratic Oath, believed to date from about 400 BC according the Wikipedia page about it. That oath is the physicians oath which among other things forbade prescribing an abortive medicine.--Tim McCully 11:53, 30 June 2007 (CDT)

McDo's

"It was founded in 1940 by American industrialists Dick and Mac McDonald". You made it sound as if these big-time industrialists founded this corp. in 1940, just the way it is today. It was just two brothers, not industrialists at all, running a single hamburger stand in the middle of nowhere. Ray Krock sold them some ice-cream blenders, liked their idea, took it over, and began to expand in the mid-1950s. At least when they used to use beef fat to cook their fries in, the fries were OK. Now everything is awful. It would be like sending a Panda Express to Beijing and calling it a Chinese restaurant. Hayford Peirce 10:26, 24 June 2007 (CDT)

Industrialists

Don't forget that people like Rockefeller, Carnegie, and Henry Ford were not *born* industrialists. They *became* industrialists. It would be incorrect, for instance, to say "The industrialist Henry Ford founded Ford Motor Company." It would be correct to say, "The industrialist Henry Ford considered running for President in 1928." Or, "The industrialist Henry Ford fought union organizers in the 1930s." A small point, but important. Best, Hayford Peirce 11:33, 24 June 2007 (CDT)

"businessman" covers both big and small operators. 13:14, 24 June 2007 (CDT)

Ninpo Deletion

Hi, Can you please explain to me on what grounds you feel the article I wrote should be deleted? There seems to be no doubt in your mind. I would like to understand your reasoning. If I have broken any rules, I would like to know what I did. If I agree with you I will delete or edit it myself. Thanks. Gary Giamboi

Ok. I didn't realize this. Is it possible to save an article to the sandbox? if so, can you tell me how to do this? I just hit "save article" from the sandbox so I thought that was all there was to it. Thanks.Gary Giamboi

Approval for . Shirley Chisholm

Nice job on Shirley Chisholm -- I started the approval process. Richard Jensen 23:03, 1 July 2007 (CDT)

Return

glad to have you back! Richard Jensen 20:57, 13 July 2007 (CDT)

Fellow Chinese

Yeap, I'm Chinese. Yim Kai-mun is Cantonese for Yan Jia Min. ;) I'm just slightly older than you are; I was born in 1986. Cheers and see you around.--Yim Kai-mun 22:58, 16 July 2007 (CDT)

Dynastic Timeline

I see you made some changes to my timeline. How d'you find it? Anything that needs improving?--Yim Kai-mun 23:10, 16 July 2007 (CDT)

I was braggin' about you

See http://forum.citizendium.org/index.php/topic,1079.msg8208.html#msg8208  —Stephen Ewen (Talk) 02:35, 17 July 2007 (CDT)

I hate to bother you

But I'd love for you to weigh in on the discussion at Oriental & Orientalism. I'm getting stonewalled by a pretty stubborn editor and I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. Hopefully, my rants on the discussion page won't seem too crazy, but I'd love your feedback. Will Nesbitt 20:03, 18 July 2007 (CDT)

Nesbitt refuses to read any of the scholarship. Richard Jensen 22:28, 18 July 2007 (CDT)
I'm not sure how Richard knows what I've read. I do not refuse to read any scholarship. The current article is about the thesis of one man: Edward Said, an orientalist who believed in and who is believed to document a conspiratorial misunderstanding of the East by Western academia and culture. I have said repeatedly, that Edward Said is an important critic of Oriental Studies in the west. Richard says that "Said dominates all discussion." It is my belief (and the belief of many others) that no man in any field dominates all discussion. Edward Said is one of many English-speaking voices who know something of the Far East. His should not be the only voice that is reported. Furthermore, the "injustices" against which Said railed thirty years ago have large been erased due to a response to his criticism and due to the natural expansion of human knowledge. One of my points has been that 18th Century oriental harem novel (about Turks!) cannot be said to reflect Western thoughts about the East, when Amy Tan is sold in Target. These harem novels are foundational pieces of evidence in Said's work. Amy Tan is not because The Joy Luck Club was published 20 years after his work.
Richard has repeatedly contended that members of gentle society do not use the term oriental. I know this to be false anecdotally and I take this as an insult because he's claiming that I'm not a member of gentle society. To counter this argument, I have documented continued and on-going usage in business, in academia, in government. In fact, just this morning I noticed item number 330148328963 "Oriental Swordsmen" figures on Ebay this morning. The guy who posted this does not use this word because he means to insult Asian people. The fact is a good many people continue to use this term and a good many people do not take insult to the term. I concede that many people do not use the term and that some people take offense. I just can't agree with the idea that no one who is polite uses the term. Will Nesbitt 05:37, 19 July 2007 (CDT)
Will is right. The idea that no one who is polite uses the term is crap. I'm an "Oriental" and I use the term when it is warranted. What I don't care for is the term being used derogatorily, whether on us or at us. In any case, I believe said term is archaic and in a few decades, it will be hardly used at all. --Yim Kai-mun 10:30, 19 July 2007 (CDT)
Oh, and have I mentioned that I consider myself a member of gentle society? So, if we go by Richard's contention, does that mean I have to give up my membership status since I use that term on myself? --Yim Kai-mun 10:33, 19 July 2007 (CDT)
A little research may be helpful. Ask your Oriental friends if they are often called that and what they feel. Richard Jensen 11:19, 19 July 2007 (CDT)
I'm quite sure that my wife of twenty years, and Yim Kai-mum have done extensive field studies. (Incidentally, my wife agrees with me but she thinks I'm wasting WAY too much time arguing the point. That's why I'm arguing, because most people like my wife and like Yim, don't bother to take up the banner despite the fact they disagree.) Will Nesbitt 16:25, 19 July 2007 (CDT)