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''Editorial Council:'' [http://ec.citizendium.org/wiki/EC:Removals_2011 Case 2011-004] | ''Editorial Council:'' [http://ec.citizendium.org/wiki/EC:Removals_2011 Case 2011-004] | ||
: Opened: --[[User:Peter Schmitt|Peter Schmitt]] 23:44, 27 October 2011 (UTC) | : Opened: --[[User:Peter Schmitt|Peter Schmitt]] 23:44, 27 October 2011 (UTC) | ||
: Closed: | : Closed: by removing WP import but leaving introduction. --[[User:Peter Schmitt|Peter Schmitt]] 23:07, 29 October 2011 (UTC) | ||
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:: However, the introduction was completely rewritten by [http://en.citizendium.org/wiki?title=Henry_Ford&diff=100456749&oldid=100446806 Russell] and is well suited as basic introduction -- I therefore agree with Chumbum that it should be kept. --[[User:Peter Schmitt|Peter Schmitt]] 23:44, 27 October 2011 (UTC) | :: However, the introduction was completely rewritten by [http://en.citizendium.org/wiki?title=Henry_Ford&diff=100456749&oldid=100446806 Russell] and is well suited as basic introduction -- I therefore agree with Chumbum that it should be kept. --[[User:Peter Schmitt|Peter Schmitt]] 23:44, 27 October 2011 (UTC) | ||
:::Well, if we're going to go that way, I'd like to [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Henry_Ford&diff=39203259&oldid=39162096 keep four paragraphs in "Early Life" section]. [[User:Russell D. Jones|Russell D. Jones]] 00:26, 28 October 2011 (UTC) | :::Well, if we're going to go that way, I'd like to [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Henry_Ford&diff=39203259&oldid=39162096 keep four paragraphs in "Early Life" section]. [[User:Russell D. Jones|Russell D. Jones]] 00:26, 28 October 2011 (UTC) | ||
::::Well, someone, and NOT the EC, is going to have to give the EC a COMPLETE proposal of what should replace the present article. We have three choices: we can blank it entirely; we can leave it as it is; or we can replace it with an amended article. But the EC cannot be asked to rewrite the article. [[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] 00:39, 28 October 2011 (UTC) | |||
Latest revision as of 17:07, 29 October 2011
WP Import
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Henry_Ford&oldid=125596089
This is the article version that was imported. 00:20 25 April 2007. Russell D. Jones 16:48, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
- I wrote three paragraphs in Henry Ford#Early Life; I am the sole author; and I have re-entered them here:
- Russell D. Jones 22:15, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
Ford's politics...
I am pretty sure that he supported Harding and Coolidge. There are even pictures of him with Harding during his front porch campaign. I wanted to get the pictures but the Ohio Historical Society has not returned my email. Can someone get an official confirmation?
Eric Pokorny 03:00, 14 May 2007 (CDT)
- Ford was a Democrat. Sobel says he "endorsed" Coolidge in 1923 but the quote does not bear out the claim [1] Richard Jensen 04:17, 14 May 2007 (CDT)
- That looks like an endorsement to me... Eric Pokorny
- Ford ran on the Democratic ticket in the senatorial election of 1918, but his politics have always been debated. If anything he was probably a populist. Russell D. Jones 22:38, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
- That looks like an endorsement to me... Eric Pokorny
What's needed?
*This article is much too much WP derived. I urge a wholesale re-write. Russell D. Jones 02:55, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
There is no section dealing with the Henry Ford Company (1899-1903?). This was Ford's first company out of which he was forced when the directors brought in Henry Leland to manage production. The company was renamed Cadillac. started this 02:55, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
No mention of the Dodge Brothers, or Horace Rackham, or James Couzens.
Or the Dodge brothers lawsuit that they brought because of Ford's construction of the River Rouge. This led Ford to buy out all of the minority shareholders.
No mention of the Tribune Lawsuit in which he said "history is more or less bunk."
There's nothing on Ford's alternatives, such as the village industries, soy bean plastics research.
--Russell D. Jones 19:47, 29 December 2007 (EST)
--Russell D. Jones 02:55, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
- all that can be added. Go to it. :) Richard Jensen 18:54, 29 December 2007 (CST)
Yes, well, this is my list of things to do here. Russell D. Jones 02:55, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
Removal
Removal suggested by Russell D. Jones 22:39, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
Editorial Council: Case 2011-004
- Opened: --Peter Schmitt 23:44, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
- Closed: by removing WP import but leaving introduction. --Peter Schmitt 23:07, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
Comments
It's still just the WP article. Scrap this and start over. Russell D. Jones 22:39, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
- No we should keep the introduction which is sigificantly different. (Chunbum Park 10:12, 22 October 2011 (UTC))
- This is moderately revised import from WP -- I therefore agree that it should be removed.
- However, the introduction was completely rewritten by Russell and is well suited as basic introduction -- I therefore agree with Chumbum that it should be kept. --Peter Schmitt 23:44, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
- Well, if we're going to go that way, I'd like to keep four paragraphs in "Early Life" section. Russell D. Jones 00:26, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
- Well, someone, and NOT the EC, is going to have to give the EC a COMPLETE proposal of what should replace the present article. We have three choices: we can blank it entirely; we can leave it as it is; or we can replace it with an amended article. But the EC cannot be asked to rewrite the article. Hayford Peirce 00:39, 28 October 2011 (UTC)