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This clearly has something to do with it, but I think it might be a bit simplistic and out-of-date to make such a blanket statement. Surely it also has to do with the economic and linguistic differences? [[User:John Stephenson|John Stephenson]] 19:51, 7 November 2007 (CST) | This clearly has something to do with it, but I think it might be a bit simplistic and out-of-date to make such a blanket statement. Surely it also has to do with the economic and linguistic differences? [[User:John Stephenson|John Stephenson]] 19:51, 7 November 2007 (CST) | ||
:I have changed "exploitation" to "mining" - I think the reader can infer it was exploitation. I think this is more even-handed. [[User:John Stephenson|John Stephenson]] 20:10, 7 November 2007 (CST) | :I have changed "exploitation" to "mining" - I think the reader can infer it was exploitation. I think this is more even-handed. [[User:John Stephenson|John Stephenson]] 20:10, 7 November 2007 (CST) | ||
::As a native of South Wales, I can assure you that the economic development of the region was entirely dependent upon exploitation by the English -- which developed substantial infrastructure such as railway lines and ports, but really left the region as a sort of economic "colony" for 150 years. This disappeared with deindustrialisation, starting in the 1970s with very high unemployment, now with more independent regional development. | |||
::The linguistic differences are caused by geography -- the mountain range {Brecon Beacons] separating North from South. Besides, the grammar and vocabulary of "North Welsh" are not that different from the south: the extent of its use as a native language is very different, though. This is bascially, I suppose, because North Wales was not of commercial interest to the English. | |||
::By the way, "exploitation" is a neutral word in political economy. I suppose it has some connotations in ordinary speech, which would not be entirely wrong either! --[[User:Martin Baldwin-Edwards|Martin Baldwin-Edwards]] 05:20, 9 November 2007 (CST) |
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The South
Is it really true, in all cases, to say that the reason that the south is more Anglicised is:
owing to the extensive exploitation of its natural resources, such as coal and gold, by the English in the 19th century.
This clearly has something to do with it, but I think it might be a bit simplistic and out-of-date to make such a blanket statement. Surely it also has to do with the economic and linguistic differences? John Stephenson 19:51, 7 November 2007 (CST)
- I have changed "exploitation" to "mining" - I think the reader can infer it was exploitation. I think this is more even-handed. John Stephenson 20:10, 7 November 2007 (CST)
- As a native of South Wales, I can assure you that the economic development of the region was entirely dependent upon exploitation by the English -- which developed substantial infrastructure such as railway lines and ports, but really left the region as a sort of economic "colony" for 150 years. This disappeared with deindustrialisation, starting in the 1970s with very high unemployment, now with more independent regional development.
- The linguistic differences are caused by geography -- the mountain range {Brecon Beacons] separating North from South. Besides, the grammar and vocabulary of "North Welsh" are not that different from the south: the extent of its use as a native language is very different, though. This is bascially, I suppose, because North Wales was not of commercial interest to the English.
- By the way, "exploitation" is a neutral word in political economy. I suppose it has some connotations in ordinary speech, which would not be entirely wrong either! --Martin Baldwin-Edwards 05:20, 9 November 2007 (CST)
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