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:Welcome once more, Thomas! I saw the note you left for Roger and think that [[CZ:Introduction to CZ for Wikipedians]] may be a good place to start exploring the differences to Wikipedia. In case of further questions, you can usually ask anyone you see on Recent Changes. Cheers, --[[User:Daniel Mietchen|Daniel Mietchen]] 01:09, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
== Your two new articles ==


::::Thanks Daniel!--[[User:Thomas Wright Sulcer|Thomas Wright Sulcer]] 12:41, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
Hi, Thomas -- have you looked at the talk pages of http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/CZ_Talk:Experiences_at_Citizendium and http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/CZ:Areas_for_reform?  Please do.  Thanks! [[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] 21:49, 28 April 2010 (UTC)


:::I'm not at all familiar with Wikipedia operationally, so I really can't answer, but Daniel's suggestion of starting with the Introduction to CZ for Wikipedians is a good one. [[User:Roger Lohmann|Roger Lohmann]] 03:51, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
==Probably will leave Citizendium==
90% chance.  See above.  If people need to reach me, email me at thomaswrightsulcer@yahoo.com. --[[User:Thomas Wright Sulcer|Thomas Wright Sulcer]] 23:16, 28 April 2010 (UTC)


::::Thanks Roger!--[[User:Thomas Wright Sulcer|Thomas Wright Sulcer]] 12:41, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
== thanks for edits on NoSQL ==
   
Thomas, Hi! I noticed your work on [[NoSQL]] and appreciate it very much. I do hope you don't leave the project. It's a wiki, people are bound to disagree sometimes; it will work out (or so I hope).[[User:Pat Palmer|Pat Palmer]] 20:51, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
::::: Regarding your question on importing an article. If the article - as you write - is (almost) entirely written by you, it can be imported without WP credit, but you should leave an explaining note on the talk page. You can also import it first to a Sandbox of your user page, and later move it to its intended place. --[[User:Peter Schmitt|Peter Schmitt]] 12:59, 15 February 2010 (UTC)


:::::: Thanks Peter!--[[User:Thomas Wright Sulcer|Thomas Wright Sulcer]] 13:00, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
==Citizendium suffers from a lack of an arbitration process==
::::::: Forgot to say: It is also useful to mention it in the edit summary. --[[User:Peter Schmitt|Peter Schmitt]] 13:20, 15 February 2010 (UTC)


Hello. So within a span of just 8 months you made significant contributions to 50~ articles? That's impressive. ([[User:Chunbum Park|Chunbum Park]] 18:08, 17 February 2010 (UTC))
When so-called "constables" continue to take sides in editorial disputes, it undermines the entire community. My comments on the talk page of [[Four color theorem]] were deleted by constables siding with a contributor who continues to criticize my work as "average", ridden with "minor errors", of only "magazine quality". What's needed is a fair arbitration process. Until then, I'm not contributing here any more.--[[User:Thomas Wright Sulcer|Thomas Wright Sulcer]] 03:54, 4 October 2010 (UTC)


== Nipple of Knowledge ==
: For a reply see [[User talk:D. Matt Innis#stuff at the four-colour page|here]]. --[[User:Peter Schmitt|Peter Schmitt]] 08:58, 4 October 2010 (UTC)


I don't think so. I'm glad to know you are an alumnus of U of R. The campus is nice, the professors are very demanding and competent, and food is tolerable at worst and usually quite decent. ([[User:Chunbum Park|Chunbum Park]] 18:44, 17 February 2010 (UTC))
== re wiki-converting project ==


:When I was there, somebody had painted an elaborate, accurate large-sized (5'x10') dollar bill in one of the hallways. Is it still there? My dog used to swim in the Genesee River. My senior year they completed the Wilson Commons and the new building was a joy to be inside; but by now the structure is probably showing its age, right?--[[User:Thomas Wright Sulcer|Thomas Wright Sulcer]] 18:48, 17 February 2010 (UTC)


:Also my friend Terry Gurnett is the head of women's soccer at U of R. I wrote a Wikipedia article about him. He's won over 400 games.--[[User:Thomas Wright Sulcer|Thomas Wright Sulcer]] 18:49, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
Thomas, are you administering the wiki-converting project, and if so, are you receiving submissions?  &mdash;[[User:Anthony.Sebastian|Anthony.Sebastian]] 15:39, 8 October 2010 (UTC)


::I don't think the dollar bill drawing is stilla round. Wilson Commons is still quite nice. I don't notice anything about it that's old. I'm sure there are more students of foreign and minority origin than when you were here. A phenomenon I've been noticing is that a lot of Asian students hang around by themselves and don't even associate much with their hallmates. I'm one of few Asians who mix in well. ([[User:Chunbum Park|Chunbum Park]] 21:39, 17 February 2010 (UTC))
:What's this Wiki-converting project?--[[User:Thomas Wright Sulcer|Thomas Wright Sulcer]] 16:14, 9 October 2010 (UTC)


:::Too bad that dollar bill was great -- one of the landmarks -- but it needed to be maintained and kept free of vandalism, so it probably succumbed. I'm a big believer in mixing as well; I married an Asian. And I'm part Asian myself -- Cauc-Asian. :) What are you studying at U of R?--[[User:Thomas Wright Sulcer|Thomas Wright Sulcer]] 21:59, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
==[[Latin (language)]]==
Hi Thomas, while looking over the articles in [[Category:Classics Workgroup]] I noticed that there were two articles which had overlapping scopes: [[Latin language]] and [[Latin (language)]]. The latter one was started by yourself and I thought you should know that I've redirected it to the other article. I copied over one of the paragraphs, while the material on which languages descend from Latin was already present. [[User:Richard Nevell|Richard Nevell]] 14:23, 29 December 2012 (UTC)


== Wow! Lots of good ideas. ==
== 'Experiences at Citizendium' ==


First, I may have confused you regarding quotes in citations. While it's indeed a preference, not a rule, that substantive quotes should not be in footnotes, don't lose them completely. Indeed, most of the quotes I have seen in your imports are meaty and belong (at least paraphrased) in the main article. We tend not to have as much use of several cites in sequence, but, in some of the cases, the quote is what distinguishes the sources. You may be able both to add to the main article and to avoid the sequential quotes by moving the quoted material into main text.
I have restored this deleted page and moved it to your [[User:Thomas Wright Sulcer/Experiences at Citizendium|user space]], which is generally where this sort of statement goes. [[User:John Stephenson|John Stephenson]] ([[User talk:John Stephenson|talk]]) 13:26, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
 
For example, note 1 has quote XXX and note 2 has quote yyy.  Where you now have ''statement'' [1][2], you might want ''statement''. "For example, ''quote 1'' [1] and ''quote 2'' [2]."
 
Second, redlinks shouldn't be avoided, but we have different usages -- informal -- than Wikipedia. It's desirable to have a redlink as a suggestion that an article is reasonably needed. We don't wikilink dates, and we don't, for example, wikilink every journalist unless that journalist seems likely to merit an article.
 
In general, I find that your articles are on the long side, but also have many articles that can be extracted and both wikilinked in the main article and also through Related Articles subpages.
===Citizenship===
While we think about the scope of the article proper, I see immediate opportunities to create articles from biographical information that we really need in articles, such as [[Alexis de Toqueville]] and [[Juergen Habermas]]. Simply extracting the material there and writing an introductory lede would make a good developing article. Once you've created the article (I can help with metadata and links), click "what links here" on the left edge, and you'll see articles that address the person and perhaps have text that can be merged into the article.
===Handyman===
The core of the article is the handyman business. The list of tasks could be a catalog subpage, with columns listing the task, the skilled trades, the [[tool]]s (see [[tool/Related Articles]]), and materials. (tips Engineering Editor [hard]hat)
 
I'm personally interested in the business aspects, as I'm involved in setting up something of a handyman exchange here in a Cape Cod fishing village and summer resort -- we have widely skilled fishermen that can variously do handyman work in the offseason, or when, for example, fishing limits keep them ashore.
===Terrorism prevention===
This, and other articles, need some organizational thought. You've opened work into the individual and community protection area.
 
In the broader area, do remember that while we are English-language, we try not to be U.S. specific. Changing to my Military Editor hat, I've had involvement with terrorism and counterterrorism since the 1960s, and a historical perspective well before that. One key to excellent articles in this area is to be sure we don't imply all terrorism is post-9/11 or Islamic or even targeted at the West. I personally believe it is essential to separate [[terrorism]] as a [[Tactics|tactic]] from [[insurgency]] or other reasons to select terror as a [[tactics|tactic]] to carry out a [[grand strategy]]. [[Suicide attack]] isn't always terrorism -- it may be purely military, but there are gray areas. I'd be delighted to work with you here. Even though there is an Approved terrorism article, I think it's due for updating. --[[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 11:13, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 07:26, 8 March 2021

Archives

New stuff

Trimmed.--Thomas Wright Sulcer 21:05, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Your two new articles

Hi, Thomas -- have you looked at the talk pages of http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/CZ_Talk:Experiences_at_Citizendium and http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/CZ:Areas_for_reform? Please do. Thanks! Hayford Peirce 21:49, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Probably will leave Citizendium

90% chance. See above. If people need to reach me, email me at thomaswrightsulcer@yahoo.com. --Thomas Wright Sulcer 23:16, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

thanks for edits on NoSQL

Thomas, Hi! I noticed your work on NoSQL and appreciate it very much. I do hope you don't leave the project. It's a wiki, people are bound to disagree sometimes; it will work out (or so I hope).Pat Palmer 20:51, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Citizendium suffers from a lack of an arbitration process

When so-called "constables" continue to take sides in editorial disputes, it undermines the entire community. My comments on the talk page of Four color theorem were deleted by constables siding with a contributor who continues to criticize my work as "average", ridden with "minor errors", of only "magazine quality". What's needed is a fair arbitration process. Until then, I'm not contributing here any more.--Thomas Wright Sulcer 03:54, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

For a reply see here. --Peter Schmitt 08:58, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

re wiki-converting project

Thomas, are you administering the wiki-converting project, and if so, are you receiving submissions? —Anthony.Sebastian 15:39, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

What's this Wiki-converting project?--Thomas Wright Sulcer 16:14, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Latin (language)

Hi Thomas, while looking over the articles in I noticed that there were two articles which had overlapping scopes: Latin language and Latin (language). The latter one was started by yourself and I thought you should know that I've redirected it to the other article. I copied over one of the paragraphs, while the material on which languages descend from Latin was already present. Richard Nevell 14:23, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

'Experiences at Citizendium'

I have restored this deleted page and moved it to your user space, which is generally where this sort of statement goes. John Stephenson (talk) 13:26, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

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