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'''From Jack Devanney, Principal Engineer, ThorCon USA Inc:'''<br> | '''From Jack Devanney, Principal Engineer, ThorCon USA Inc:'''<br> | ||
“For the record, ThorCon does no chemical processing online to remove fission products or anything else. Xenon and krypton bubble out in the header tank, are held in storage tanks until they have decayed to harmless levels, and then cooled, compressed and stored. There's nothing elaborate or complex about the process.”<br> | “For the record, ThorCon does no chemical processing online to remove fission products or anything else. Xenon and krypton bubble out in the header tank, are held in storage tanks until they have decayed to harmless levels, and then cooled, compressed and stored. There's nothing elaborate or complex about the process.”<br> | ||
== Waste Management == | |||
'''Comment''' in a discussion of nuclear waste in the FaceBook group [https://www.facebook.com/groups/2081763568746983/posts/3111046639151999/?comment_id=3113958072194189 Renewable vs. Nuclear Debate]<br> | |||
"What are they going to do with the radioactive gases and the corrosive, radioactive salt from thorium reactors? ...the engineers designing MSR's don't know yet exactly, what kind and what amounts of radioactive waste will be produced, while physicists like Harald Lesch for example warn about the storage of used, radioactive salts. And recycling of nuclear waste is a no-go in the US of A" | |||
See the '''replies''' from Jack Devanney below, and from Roger Blomquist in the discussion linked above. | |||
== one of these has been built recently == | == one of these has been built recently == | ||
Apparently, these are not a new idea, but are being reconsidered. See <span class="newtab">[https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/254692-new-molten-salt-thorium-reactor-first-time-decades New Molten Salt Thorium Reactor First Time (in) Decades]</span>. I know next to nothing about this, but put the link here in case this might help flesh out this article. Eventually, this article could use a better introduction. Coming to it as an uninformed, undecided reader, the current intro is too sparse for me to get my bearings. [[User:Pat Palmer|Pat Palmer]] ([[User talk:Pat Palmer|talk]]) 12:10, 1 November 2021 (UTC) | Apparently, these are not a new idea, but are being reconsidered. See <span class="newtab">[https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/254692-new-molten-salt-thorium-reactor-first-time-decades New Molten Salt Thorium Reactor First Time (in) Decades]</span>. I know next to nothing about this, but put the link here in case this might help flesh out this article. Eventually, this article could use a better introduction. Coming to it as an uninformed, undecided reader, the current intro is too sparse for me to get my bearings. [[User:Pat Palmer|Pat Palmer]] ([[User talk:Pat Palmer|talk]]) 12:10, 1 November 2021 (UTC) | ||
: The article is just a starter with info I picked up from the ThorCon website. Hopefully we will get an expert to jump in and "flesh" it out. Molten salt reactors are some of the first ever built. See the MSRE (Molten Salt Reactor Experiment) back in the 1960's at Oak Ridge. For reasons controversial to this day, they decided to abandon a successful demo and go with PWRs (Pressurized Water Reactors). ThorCon is a straightforward upscale of these early reactors. [[User:David MacQuigg|David MacQuigg]] ([[User talk:David MacQuigg|talk]]) 16:09, 4 November 2021 (UTC) | : The article is just a starter with info I picked up from the ThorCon website. Hopefully we will get an expert to jump in and "flesh" it out. Molten salt reactors are some of the first ever built. See the MSRE (Molten Salt Reactor Experiment) back in the 1960's at Oak Ridge. For reasons controversial to this day, they decided to abandon a successful demo and go with PWRs (Pressurized Water Reactors). ThorCon is a straightforward upscale of these early reactors. [[User:David MacQuigg|David MacQuigg]] ([[User talk:David MacQuigg|talk]]) 16:09, 4 November 2021 (UTC) | ||
Revision as of 05:58, 20 March 2022
Risk of proliferation
Union of Concerned Scientists report:
"Advanced" Isn't Always Better, Edwin Lyman (2021).
https://www.ucsusa.org/resources/advanced-isnt-always-better
“We studied the most prominent “advanced” nuclear reactor designs. Unfortunately, few are safer or more secure than current generation reactors.”
From the Executive Summary:
“All MSRs chemically treat the fuel to varying extents while the reactor operates to remove radioactive isotopes that affect reactor performance. Therefore, unlike other reactors, MSRs generally require on-site chemical plants to process their fuel. MSRs also need elaborate systems to capture and treat large volumes of highly radioactive gaseous byproducts.”
From Jack Devanney, Principal Engineer, ThorCon USA Inc:
“For the record, ThorCon does no chemical processing online to remove fission products or anything else. Xenon and krypton bubble out in the header tank, are held in storage tanks until they have decayed to harmless levels, and then cooled, compressed and stored. There's nothing elaborate or complex about the process.”
Waste Management
Comment in a discussion of nuclear waste in the FaceBook group Renewable vs. Nuclear Debate
"What are they going to do with the radioactive gases and the corrosive, radioactive salt from thorium reactors? ...the engineers designing MSR's don't know yet exactly, what kind and what amounts of radioactive waste will be produced, while physicists like Harald Lesch for example warn about the storage of used, radioactive salts. And recycling of nuclear waste is a no-go in the US of A"
See the replies from Jack Devanney below, and from Roger Blomquist in the discussion linked above.
one of these has been built recently
Apparently, these are not a new idea, but are being reconsidered. See New Molten Salt Thorium Reactor First Time (in) Decades. I know next to nothing about this, but put the link here in case this might help flesh out this article. Eventually, this article could use a better introduction. Coming to it as an uninformed, undecided reader, the current intro is too sparse for me to get my bearings. Pat Palmer (talk) 12:10, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
- The article is just a starter with info I picked up from the ThorCon website. Hopefully we will get an expert to jump in and "flesh" it out. Molten salt reactors are some of the first ever built. See the MSRE (Molten Salt Reactor Experiment) back in the 1960's at Oak Ridge. For reasons controversial to this day, they decided to abandon a successful demo and go with PWRs (Pressurized Water Reactors). ThorCon is a straightforward upscale of these early reactors. David MacQuigg (talk) 16:09, 4 November 2021 (UTC)