Talk:IJN Shigure

Yup, anthropomorphic

Other than Russian warships, which are male, warships are female. Howard C. Berkowitz 22:24, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

I know that, and I knew that you were going to say that. However, one still writes, "She was a nice ship that was destroyed by a giant gumball being dropped on it (or, I suppose, "her") from a great height," not "She was a nice ship who was destroyed etc.". The "she" is merely a convention of referring to the ship -- it does not make the ship a human being, who, I would say, and I'm sure that the Noble Rheaux will back me up on this, are the *only* entities to merit "who", "whom", etc. Although I suppose that fictional gods and goddesses can get the same treatment. Animals and ships, however, no matter how cuddly and feminine, are "that"s and "which"s. Trust me on this.... Hayford Peirce 22:55, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Mr. Clark is cuddly but not feminine. If necessary, however, he can send a hairball in your direction. Rhonda is cuddly and feminine except when she's in outlaw biker or punk rock mode.

My Aunt Shirley surely merited, at best, what. Rather like Archie Bunker, with a bigger mustache and less empathy.

You may find things different in the desert, but, here in a fishing village, F/V Daniel Mikayla, F/V Wayfarer and F/V Comin' Home are female. Howard C. Berkowitz 23:06, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

So now I know that TS means Trans-ships, not Transsexuals.... Hayford Peirce 23:35, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

See hermaphrodite brig [1]. This does not preclude transshipment, and the identity of Q-ships is necessarily vague. Howard C. Berkowitz 23:42, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Hehe. On that note, I give up! Hayford Peirce 01:26, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Sink, sank, sunk

I'm one of those guys who believes it's "sank", but I see that the @#$%^&* M-W11 says "sunk" is also used, so screw it. Grrrrr.

In any case, you gotta remember that every time they do a poll of college students, or maybe people under 40 or 50, they get answers like, WWII was fought between the English and the Russians, or the Merkins and the Chinese, or even greater absurdities. So, yes, it's important to tell the fans the nationality of the submarine in question. Otherwise they would surely never know.... Hayford Peirce 18:28, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Nimitz and MacArthur are less implausible. Howard C. Berkowitz 18:30, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Than what? One's a freeway, the other's a playwright.... Hayford Peirce 18:39, 28 June 2009 (UTC)