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This article requires some examples, and some sources. [[User:John R. Brews|John R. Brews]] 17:49, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
This article requires some examples, and some sources. [[User:John R. Brews|John R. Brews]] 17:49, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
== B and H ==
Authors are sloppy about the use of B and H. It appears that serious calculations of magnetic susceptibilities, [http://books.google.com/books?id=ZbM0gHCcmaQC&printsec=frontcover&dq=Theory+of+itinerant+electron+magnetism&hl=en&ei=hzoGTb2iEYGmsQP7ks3XDQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCoQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false Kubler for example] use H and find it self-consistently inside the material. Because it is a self-consistent calculation, and so involves adjustable parameters, it is moot what the exact interpretation of H may be, but M = χH with χ dimensionless makes H the way to go.  The only role left to B is outside the material where B = μ<sub>0</sub>H because M = 0, and then the role of B is just to establish the external applied H. [[User:John R. Brews|John R. Brews]] 16:44, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

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 Definition Magnetic moment per unit volume of a material, denoted M, defined in terms of the magnetic moments of its constituents by M=(1/V)Σj mj where the magnetic moment mj of the j-th constituent in the volume V is a vector property that determines the torque the object experiences in a magnetic field tending to align its moment with the field. [d] [e]
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This article requires some examples, and some sources. John R. Brews 17:49, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

B and H

Authors are sloppy about the use of B and H. It appears that serious calculations of magnetic susceptibilities, Kubler for example use H and find it self-consistently inside the material. Because it is a self-consistent calculation, and so involves adjustable parameters, it is moot what the exact interpretation of H may be, but M = χH with χ dimensionless makes H the way to go. The only role left to B is outside the material where B = μ0H because M = 0, and then the role of B is just to establish the external applied H. John R. Brews 16:44, 13 December 2010 (UTC)