Talk:Hillary Clinton

"Most" Controversial?

Senator Clinton has made a good many controversial votes. I'm not sure how one can be qualified as the "most" controversial. Will Nesbitt 08:08, 21 July 2007 (CDT)

It's "Most" because that's the one her critics emphasize time and again, far more than any other vote.Richard Jensen 07:16, 22 July 2007 (CDT)

Actually, her base emphasizes it. Her critics generally support this vote. Perhaps that does make it the "most" controversial, but that's still a large enough claim to require a reference. Will Nesbitt 09:11, 22 July 2007 (CDT)

election status not appropriate?

I would like to remove all the status information about the current election, since we are not a news organization. Reports of attacks and rhetoric during the current campaign seem particularly unhelpful to me in this context. Can this article stick mainly to a reporting of facts about her life, deliberately omitting activities ongoing during this campaign? Even if we cite references for those, we are essentially getting into the business or providing analysis of ongoing, active events--not a role I see as appropriate for the Citizendium. If no one objects, I will remove large portions of the opening pertaining to who attached whom for what during the current election.Pat Palmer 15:09, 16 January 2008 (CST)

Basically, I think it all needs to be removed except the first paragraph, which should just end with a statement that "Hillary is currently running for president of the United States" or something. Then, it would be helpful to add stuff about her upbringind and education, stuff that can be documented and does not constitute analysis or commentary on current events.Pat Palmer 15:20, 16 January 2008 (CST)

I agree that we don't need a "blow-by-blow" daily update of her political activities during the campaign, but if significant things happen to occur DURING the campaign then they are entirely appropriate; obviously the fact that she is on the camapaign trail running for president is reasonable in itself.

Also, the political analsys and commentary really should go also; I'll avoid the man in the gorilla suit obviously. --Robert W King 15:29, 16 January 2008 (CST)

No this is a matter for the Politics worksgroup to decide. Take it up there.Richard Jensen 16:54, 16 January 2008 (CST)

campaign reporting

I have consolidated the analysis of the presidential campaign tactics used so far in the section called "presidential campaign". I have also replaced what I considered to be "spin" words (i.e., implying either positive or negative traits) with less hot button words.Pat Palmer 19:58, 16 January 2008 (CST)

I notice that the "presidential campaign" section is almost an exact duplicate of the section by the same name on the Hillary Clinton article. Therefore, it makes sense, if this analysis must be in Citizendium at all, to move it all out to a separate article called something like "presidential primary (2008)". anybody want to tackle that?Pat Palmer 20:20, 16 January 2008 (CST)