Talk:Integral: Difference between revisions

From Citizendium
Jump to navigation Jump to search
imported>Catherine Woodgold
("size" is not necessarily better than "totality".)
imported>Catherine Woodgold
(attempts to find better wording)
Line 2: Line 2:
"Totality" might be better because integrals also describe such concepts as mass. But it's really hard to come up with a formulation that is both easy to grasp and accurate. [[User:Fredrik Johansson|Fredrik Johansson]] 13:54, 29 April 2007 (CDT)
"Totality" might be better because integrals also describe such concepts as mass. But it's really hard to come up with a formulation that is both easy to grasp and accurate. [[User:Fredrik Johansson|Fredrik Johansson]] 13:54, 29 April 2007 (CDT)
:I agree.  "size" is not necessarily the best.  Change it back to "totality" if you like.  There may be something better.  "Extent in space" doesn't cover all cases, either:  one might want to integrate prices or interest rates or temperatures or something else, but since it says "intuitively" I think "extent in space" is good enough for that part -- it helps the reader get an image in their mind.  I'll try to think of other words.  --[[User:Catherine Woodgold|Catherine Woodgold]] 14:03, 29 April 2007 (CDT)
:I agree.  "size" is not necessarily the best.  Change it back to "totality" if you like.  There may be something better.  "Extent in space" doesn't cover all cases, either:  one might want to integrate prices or interest rates or temperatures or something else, but since it says "intuitively" I think "extent in space" is good enough for that part -- it helps the reader get an image in their mind.  I'll try to think of other words.  --[[User:Catherine Woodgold|Catherine Woodgold]] 14:03, 29 April 2007 (CDT)
:''"Intuitively, we can think of an integral as a measure of the totality of an object with an extent in space. "''
:''"... as a measure of the totality of some aspect, such as area or volume, of an object with an extent in space."''
:''"... as a measure of some additive quality of an object."''
:''"... as a measure of qualities such as area or volume, of the type whose values add when two objects are joined into a larger object."''
:''"... as a measure of such qualities as area and volume."''
:''"... as a way of extending the definition and measurement of area and volume to curved objects."''
:OK, I give up:  leave it as "totality".  I changed it back to the original. --[[User:Catherine Woodgold|Catherine Woodgold]] 18:35, 29 April 2007 (CDT)

Revision as of 17:35, 29 April 2007

Totality vs size

"Totality" might be better because integrals also describe such concepts as mass. But it's really hard to come up with a formulation that is both easy to grasp and accurate. Fredrik Johansson 13:54, 29 April 2007 (CDT)

I agree. "size" is not necessarily the best. Change it back to "totality" if you like. There may be something better. "Extent in space" doesn't cover all cases, either: one might want to integrate prices or interest rates or temperatures or something else, but since it says "intuitively" I think "extent in space" is good enough for that part -- it helps the reader get an image in their mind. I'll try to think of other words. --Catherine Woodgold 14:03, 29 April 2007 (CDT)
"Intuitively, we can think of an integral as a measure of the totality of an object with an extent in space. "
"... as a measure of the totality of some aspect, such as area or volume, of an object with an extent in space."
"... as a measure of some additive quality of an object."
"... as a measure of qualities such as area or volume, of the type whose values add when two objects are joined into a larger object."
"... as a measure of such qualities as area and volume."
"... as a way of extending the definition and measurement of area and volume to curved objects."
OK, I give up: leave it as "totality". I changed it back to the original. --Catherine Woodgold 18:35, 29 April 2007 (CDT)