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:Feel free to edit. [[User:Fredrik Johansson|Fredrik Johansson]] 12:06, 1 May 2007 (CDT)
:Feel free to edit. [[User:Fredrik Johansson|Fredrik Johansson]] 12:06, 1 May 2007 (CDT)
== Why not a physical example? ==
The opening paragraph mentions work (I think). Why not work out a simple example, like the work involved in drawing a bow string compared with the energy imparted to the arrow when the bow is released? How much fuel does it take for a rocket to reach the moon, bearing in mind that it is burning off fuel the whole time? [[User:Greg Woodhouse|Greg Woodhouse]] 18:39, 1 May 2007 (CDT)

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Totality vs size

"Totality" might be better because integrals also describe such concepts as mass. But it's really hard to come up with a formulation that is both easy to grasp and accurate. Fredrik Johansson 13:54, 29 April 2007 (CDT)

I agree. "size" is not necessarily the best. Change it back to "totality" if you like. There may be something better. "Extent in space" doesn't cover all cases, either: one might want to integrate prices or interest rates or temperatures or something else, but since it says "intuitively" I think "extent in space" is good enough for that part -- it helps the reader get an image in their mind. I'll try to think of other words. --Catherine Woodgold 14:03, 29 April 2007 (CDT)
"Intuitively, we can think of an integral as a measure of the totality of an object with an extent in space. "
"... as a measure of the totality of some aspect, such as area or volume, of an object with an extent in space."
"... as a measure of some additive quality of an object."
"... as a measure of qualities such as area or volume, of the type whose values add when two objects are joined into a larger object."
"... as a measure of such qualities as area and volume."
"... as a way of extending the definition and measurement of area and volume to curved objects."
OK, I give up: leave it as "totality". I changed it back to the original. --Catherine Woodgold 18:35, 29 April 2007 (CDT)

Maybe you should just note that integrals generalize sums to (possibly) continuously varying quantities. Greg Woodhouse 13:47, 30 April 2007 (CDT)

The first sentence could be "An integral generalizes the idea of a sum to cover quantities which may be continuously varying, allowing for example the area or volume of curved objects to be calculated." --Catherine Woodgold 18:51, 30 April 2007 (CDT)

Intuitively

Please can somebody explain to me why I would Intuitively see integral as the way described in the first line ot the article? In my (and yes I am playing advocate of the devil) notion integral means total/aggregated. Can we put it into simpler lingo? Robert Tito |  Talk  19:34, 30 April 2007 (CDT)

Feel free to edit. Fredrik Johansson 12:06, 1 May 2007 (CDT)

Why not a physical example?

The opening paragraph mentions work (I think). Why not work out a simple example, like the work involved in drawing a bow string compared with the energy imparted to the arrow when the bow is released? How much fuel does it take for a rocket to reach the moon, bearing in mind that it is burning off fuel the whole time? Greg Woodhouse 18:39, 1 May 2007 (CDT)