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: There's certainly some linkage, though they are different concepts. e.g. Neal Stephenson is often considered a cyberpunk writer. Have you read his Cryptonomicon? I highly recommend it if not. See [[ULTRA#Fictional_treatments]]. Quite a few characters in that book are on the "Secret Admirers" mailing list; that's obviously the old cypherpunk list. At some point, I may get to doing articles on Stephenson, Cryptonomicom and cypherpunks. WP has a decent article [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cypherpunk]]. [[User:Sandy Harris|Sandy Harris]] 16:46, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
: There's certainly some linkage, though they are different concepts. e.g. Neal Stephenson is often considered a cyberpunk writer. Have you read his Cryptonomicon? I highly recommend it if not. See [[ULTRA#Fictional_treatments]]. Quite a few characters in that book are on the "Secret Admirers" mailing list; that's obviously the old cypherpunk list. At some point, I may get to doing articles on Stephenson, Cryptonomicom and cypherpunks. WP has a decent article [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cypherpunk]]. [[User:Sandy Harris|Sandy Harris]] 16:46, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
::Laughing...yes, I remember reading Cryptonomicon, and having a doubletake that I was recognizing some apparently obscure references. In a reverse manner, in some of Dan Brown's novels, it's jarring for me to have a vivid description of the main hallway at NSA, which has no resemblance to the real thing (a mere "corridor after the 2010 renovation" would let me suspend disbelief.
::No special urgency, other than I see a CZ culture of looking for, and pointing out, linkages as a key differentiator from WP. [[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 17:10, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

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Cyberpunk and cypherpunk

I notice there's also an article on cyberpunk. While I've read Gibson et al., are these different areas of thought or should there be, at least, linkage?Howard C. Berkowitz 10:13, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

There's certainly some linkage, though they are different concepts. e.g. Neal Stephenson is often considered a cyberpunk writer. Have you read his Cryptonomicon? I highly recommend it if not. See ULTRA#Fictional_treatments. Quite a few characters in that book are on the "Secret Admirers" mailing list; that's obviously the old cypherpunk list. At some point, I may get to doing articles on Stephenson, Cryptonomicom and cypherpunks. WP has a decent article [[1]]. Sandy Harris 16:46, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
Laughing...yes, I remember reading Cryptonomicon, and having a doubletake that I was recognizing some apparently obscure references. In a reverse manner, in some of Dan Brown's novels, it's jarring for me to have a vivid description of the main hallway at NSA, which has no resemblance to the real thing (a mere "corridor after the 2010 renovation" would let me suspend disbelief.
No special urgency, other than I see a CZ culture of looking for, and pointing out, linkages as a key differentiator from WP. Howard C. Berkowitz 17:10, 8 November 2008 (UTC)