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Still active but rarely on the wiki. If you want to leave me a message,  the "Email this user" link on the left may be more efficient than this talk page.
 
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Un-jay?  Un as in unable, jay as in bird, letter?  That's quite a lot different from what I imagined. [[User:Robert Thorpe|Robert Thorpe]] 12:18, 5 October 2007 (CDT)-->
==[[Portuguese language]]==
Hello, it's me (yet again).  I made an info box for the above, went back to see, and noticed that you had already removed one such.  Why was this?  Is there some policy concerning them that I don't know?  Anyway, my one is based on the [[Spanish language]] one & is not exactly a thing of beauty... Regards, [[User:Robert Thorpe|Robert Thorpe]] 17:44, 5 October 2007 (CDT)
:Oh, I see.  Well, I think I've combined the best of the 2 boxes.  It's the Big Dirtyup! [[User:Robert Thorpe|Robert Thorpe]] 08:34, 6 October 2007 (CDT)
 
==Big O and little o==
Hi Aleks, thanks for your tweaking of the little o and big O articles. You are right, separating the functions and sequences do make them more readable, I guess I was being a bit lazy :-( Just one little thing though, I intentionally avoided using the limit notation because of the pathological case where b_n and g(t) may be uniformly zero, so then it would be necessary to make conventions regarding the 0/0 quotient -- this needs to be remarked in the article. Do you know what would be a good way to get around this? I thought that with the N-epsilon argument this small complication is nicely removed (at the expense of being a bit more abstract). Also, I don't think there's much more that can possibly be added to the articles, so perhaps after adding some examples and some standard references they can be put forward for approval. Let me know what you think! Thanks. [[User:Hendra I. Nurdin|Hendra I. Nurdin]] 05:30, 10 October 2007 (CDT)
:(In reply to your post on my talkpage) That's fine, Aleks, take your time -- there's a disclaimer up on top of the articles anyway :-). However, until the 0/0 issue is resolved, to be on the safe side my suggestion would be to temporarily remove the limit interpretation in little o big O O articles and leave it with the slightly abstract N-\epsilon formalism. Thanks. [[User:Hendra I. Nurdin|Hendra I. Nurdin]] 19:17, 10 October 2007 (CDT)
::Hi Aleks, I think it would be okay and probably a good idea to reintroduce the limit of fractions interpretation as long as the exceptions/pathological exceptions are explicitly mentioned in the article. So, please go ahead :-) Thanks. [[User:Hendra I. Nurdin|Hendra I. Nurdin]] 07:52, 12 October 2007 (CDT)
 
== Thanks for volunteering for wikiconverting ==
 
Any ideas what file formats we should accept?  Any other idea about this human wikiconverter project?.  Will you convert a MS Word ".doc", say, directly yourself or will you utilize some intermediate converting program?  If the latter, what program(s)?  Comment on my Talk page, in the section asking for comments, so commenters can share ideas.
--[[User:Anthony.Sebastian|Anthony.Sebastian]] [[User talk:Anthony.Sebastian|(Talk)]] 19:28, 17 October 2007 (CDT)
 
== Message personnel ==
 
Hi, I know where Wroclaw is ;-) though I never went to Poland :-( In reply to your msg, I hope that some day we'll see a french citizendium, but now the challenge is to start this project, so we have to improve our english ! As you can see, I'm a ''beginner'' and I'm looking my way here :-) [[User:Jean Gebarowski|Jean Gebarowski]] 04:20, 24 October 2007 (CDT)
 
== Cauchy ==
 
Hi Aleks, I completely agree: blue is better than red. However, I don't always know whether an article exists, but I do my best and I appreciate your fixing my math links. Cheers, --[[User:Paul Wormer|Paul Wormer]] 03:08, 31 October 2007 (CDT)
 
:Aleks, don't apologize, I appreciate you working alongside, it can only improve the article. My plans are: first finish the description of Cauchy's life (which I extract from Belhoste), and then say a few lines about Cauchy's work, more or less in chronological order. Here I intend to use M. Kline's history of maths. I will also look at McTutor and WP (the latter with great care, of course). Best wishes, --[[User:Paul Wormer|Paul Wormer]] 05:51, 31 October 2007 (CDT)
 
== French ==
 
Alek, would you kindly send a French email for me?  See [http://www.culture.gouv.fr/public/mistral/joconde_fr?ACTION=RETROUVER&FIELD_98=TOUT&VALUE_98=Mazarin&NUMBER=22&GRP=0&REQ=%28%28Mazarin%29%20%3aTOUT%20%29&USRNAME=nobody&USRPWD=4%24%2534P&SPEC=9&SYN=1&IMLY=&MAX1=1&MAX2=250&MAX3=250&DOM=All this page] and just click on "Commande photo" and tell them we are a non-profit with no funds for images but wish to use it in our articles about http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Cardinal_Mazarin. I'd appreciate it. [[User:Stephen Ewen|Stephen Ewen]] 20:28, 3 November 2007 (CDT)
 
== Bot ==
 
Thanks a lot for stopping the bot. I'm sure I tested against it when I wrote the program, but I guess the software update led to a subtle change breaking how the bot handles of the Wikipedia flag. Darn, this might not be so easy to repair. Ah well, it keeps life interesting. -- [[User:Jitse Niesen|Jitse Niesen]] 10:44, 5 November 2007 (CST)
: I suppose that fixing the bot code so that it preserves the WP checkbox won't be too hard. So when you write "not easy to repair" you refer to putting back the WP credits on articles (reversion of *some* bot's actions). If so, and if you were interested in, I think I could help do it. I mean I could compile a list of articles concerned. Then the bot could restore the credits. Does it look reasonable? [[User:Aleksander Stos|Aleksander Stos]] 11:10, 5 November 2007 (CST)
You suppose correctly. I'll first have a look how hard it would be to compile this list myself. If it's really not that easy, I'll come back to you. -- [[User:Jitse Niesen|Jitse Niesen]] 11:20, 5 November 2007 (CST)
:As you wish. Just to give you a reference point, I have a tool that dumps the revision histories to something like "stub-meta-history.xml" Wikipedia-type file. The only tweak I have to do is to dump from my account (now it's anonymous and the WP status is not visible). To determine the list using such a dump file is not too hard. Just let me know :) [[User:Aleksander Stos|Aleksander Stos]] 11:34, 5 November 2007 (CST)
 
It wasn't too hard and the bot is cleaning up the mess. There are of course a couple of articles that were edited by others after my bot changed the article. I'll have to check these individually, but it looks like there are only 20 or so of them. Very annoying, though, these humans that edit pages ;)
 
By the way, are you still interested in a reply to the email you sent me a month or so ago? I have been doing a bit of travelling lately, and then I moved from Australia to England, so I didn't find time to reply; sorry. -- [[User:Jitse Niesen|Jitse Niesen]] 13:10, 5 November 2007 (CST)
: Great! Oh, I know those annoying humans.. They spot a wiki and they come. Well, we can always set up a bot-only site. I bet it would grow faster than the Wikipedia ;) BTW, welcome in Europe! Regarding my old question, if I recall it correctly,  it has been fixed (on the server side). [[User:Aleksander Stos|Aleksander Stos]] 14:48, 5 November 2007 (CST)
 
== CZ:Live ==
 
Thanks for the Categorizations on the break-up of the Yoga article. --[[User:Michael J. Formica|Michael J. Formica]] 17:56, 7 November 2007 (CST)
 
:Keeping the rest of us honest is the least part of stupid. :-) --[[User:Michael J. Formica|Michael J. Formica]] 18:00, 7 November 2007 (CST)
 
==Unknown user==
Hi Aleks. I noticed these edits [http://en.citizendium.org/wiki?title=Metric_space&action=history] made by an unknown user with the nick Turms. I am not complaining about the edit at all, they're acceptable and constructive (so I'm happy he/she has helped out with the [[metric space]] article), but this user should be using a real name like everyone else. Is this a remnant of past CZ self-registration? I think there are a few other users like this around. Perhaps you look into this? Thanks. [[User:Hendra I. Nurdin|Hendra I. Nurdin]] 05:19, 13 November 2007 (CST)
 
Yes, this is correct--any such user is going to have to be blocked by the Constabulary.  They're remnants of the weeks in January and February when we actually were letting people "self-register."  Unfortunately, we still haven't deleted all those accounts.  For quicker service, just e-mail constables@citizendium.org and you'll get everyone, not just Aleks. --[[User:Larry Sanger|Larry Sanger]] 06:06, 13 November 2007 (CST)
 
==unchecklisted articles==
What are you plans for that page? It seems that quite a few have the checklist on the metadata template but no talk page. [[User:Chris Day|Chris Day]] [[User talk:Chris Day|(talk)]] 03:40, 19 November 2007 (CST)
:Definitely, the script should be updated (recently I was too busy to control the results in the new subpage environment). To the point, have you any examples of articles checklisted on metadata and yet indicated on my list? In theory there should be no such article since the script reads and excludes the "internal articles" and "external articles" categories. This should work in the new system as well. BTW, I'm open to any suggestions for improvements / rearrangements etc. [[User:Aleksander Stos|Aleksander Stos]] 03:48, 19 November 2007 (CST)
::The one I found was [[NGC 1039‎]] (I think).  Maybe the others in that series have the same problem? [[User:Chris Day|Chris Day]] [[User talk:Chris Day|(talk)]] 08:04, 19 November 2007 (CST)
:::OK, I just checked [[NGC_6218]] and it has the problem.  I just realised why.  As we put the internal category on the talk page, and this article does not have a talk page then your script is blind to it being an internal article.  Make sense? [[User:Chris Day|Chris Day]] [[User talk:Chris Day|(talk)]] 08:06, 19 November 2007 (CST)
::Yes, thanks, I'll have a look at this. Perhaps it's more systematic 'bias' of NGC-series. I also spoted [[Depression]] on the unchecklisted page; in fact it was checklisted on the metadata page but the subpage template wasn't put on the talk. Anyway the script detects 'correctly' that something is 'out of order' and could be fixed. Just the 'diagnostic' is pretty poor.  [[User:Aleksander Stos|Aleksander Stos]] 10:42, 19 November 2007 (CST)
 
== [[List of sovereign states]] ==
 
Hi, Alek, the above has been superseded & needs deleting. Au revoir - [[User:Ro Thorpe|Ro Thorpe]] 09:37, 27 November 2007 (CST)
 
I looked at the talk page and was referred to [[Country/Catalogs]], which has a complete list of countries, so delete & redirect, I meant, yes - [[User:Ro Thorpe|Ro Thorpe]] 12:20, 27 November 2007 (CST)
 
== Distribution ==
 
Hi Alek, what article in WP are you referring to on the forum? This reminds me, during stub week I wrote [[Distribution (mathematics)]]. I'm hardly an expert, may be you could have a look at it?
 
This morning I wrote [[allotropic]] and a redirect [[allotropy]]. I rather have it the other way round, can I do that myself? Or must a constable do that? --[[User:Paul Wormer|Paul Wormer]] 08:19, 1 December 2007 (CST)
 
== mv allotropy ==
 
It seems it worked. --[[User:Paul Wormer|Paul Wormer]] 10:24, 1 December 2007 (CST)
 
== New stats images ==
Hi Alek, I was looking at the new stats images, and some of them look pretty exciting.  Clearly, we're on the downside of a spike just now, though, as we're now in the holiday season, which is usually slower.  Anyway, I just wanted to point out that the images on [[CZ:Statistics]] don't seem to be linking properly to the latest images in every case. --[[User:Larry Sanger|Larry Sanger]] 11:45, 2 December 2007 (CST)
 
==Double topological space article==
Hi Alek, I'm not sure CZ would need to have two topological space articles (i.e., the [[topological space]] article, which has been here for a few months, and the new [[Topological Space]] article) -- when they're talking about the same object. I had left a note for the author of the second article about this [[User_talk:Giovanni_Antonio_DiMatteo#Topological_space_article|here]], but no response. What is CZ policy about this? Thanks. [[User:Hendra I. Nurdin|Hendra I. Nurdin]] 18:08, 4 December 2007 (CST)
 
I see that the two topological space articles have been merged, producing a more comprehensive article (which is good!). Well, I guess this saved the author of the second article (Giovanni) from rewriting things that may already be in the first article (e.g., some examples). Cheerio, --[[User:Hendra I. Nurdin|Hendra I. Nurdin]] 05:47, 8 December 2007 (CST)
 
== Dirac delta and distributions ==
 
Hi Alek,
 
when I explained delta functions to chemistry students, I used the example of a sequence of Gauss functions Nexp(-a x^2), all linearly (not quadratically!) normalized to unity by choice of N. (I could have used block functions as well). I  had a figure showing the normalized Gauss functions for increasing a, making clear that the functions got narrower and narrower, and of course higher and higher (because of normalization). I then argued that at a certain point  f(x) could be replaced by f(0) in the integral  N\int_{-\infty}^{\infty} f(x)exp(-a x^2) dx,  because f(x) was assumed to be  "smooth" and the Gauss function narrow enough. Taking f(0) in front of the integral, and the integral yielding unity, I "proved"  the  delta function property.
 
In this explanation I believed to be close to the spirit of "delta convergent sequences" (no nonsense from a mathematical point of view, as the WP plot that you mentioned), and yet to be understandable by chemists. What do you think, should we attempt a similar intro to an article on the Dirac delta?
 
PS. The physical meaning of the Gauss function could of course be a charge or mass distribution, leading in the limit (infinite exponent a) to a point charge or a point mass.--[[User:Paul Wormer|Paul Wormer]] 04:20, 5 December 2007 (CST)
 
== Topological space ==
 
Czesc,
 
I understood the intention (and you know what is paved with them) but the text was confusing to the newcomers to topology, and sounded out of tune to topologists. Be it English, Polish, Russian, ... -- topologists don't talk about "spaces of open sets", and especially "spaces of closed sets" has in topology a different meaning from the one used (previously) in the article, etc. All that is needed is a simple statement: '''topological space''' can be introduced in several different but equivalent ways. That's all. But "topology" as a specific object (rather than a branch of mathematics) means only one thing: a family of sets (called open sets), which satisfies certain axioms (of open sets). The family of closed sets is NOT called "topology" or "topology of closed sets". After reading the articele, as it was previously, the newcomers would have harder time to read the standard topological literature. [[User:Wlodzimierz Holsztynski|Wlodzimierz Holsztynski]] 18:52, 17 December 2007 (CST)
 
:: wrong address, my fault--I should have directed the above note to Giovanni (but I was tired). If you don't mind, I will ask him to read my note here, from your page. [[User:Wlodzimierz Holsztynski|Wlodzimierz Holsztynski]] 20:53, 17 December 2007 (CST)
 
== Re 'wiki-converting' ==
 
Aleksander: Regarding your volunteering to 'wiki-convert' word-processor files from subscribers, please see: http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/CZ:Wiki-converting.  For tracking, use section with your name as title. --Anthony.Sebastian 19:43, 18 December 2007 (CST)
:Thanks for notifying! [[User:Aleksander Stos|Aleksander Stos]] 02:34, 19 December 2007 (CST)
 
== feel free to zap these archives ==
I have no further desire to keep [[Talk:Computer science/oldAsOfMay25 2007|this old temporary archive]] or [[Talk:Computer_network/OldArticle1|this one]].  I just made them to justify starting over from scratch, which was easier that trying to hash through all that mess.[[User:Pat Palmer|Pat Palmer]] 17:36, 7 January 2008 (CST)
 
== Party! ==
 
Alas, alas--it's two in the morning, so Aleks is blissfully sleeping through the last hours of the [[CZ:Monthly Write-a-Thon]].  Catch you next month! [[User:Aleta Curry|Aleta Curry]] 19:09, 9 January 2008 (CST)
 
== Status query ==
Thanks for updating [[One-time pad]]. However, you seem to have tagged it "CZ-live" but is is externally sourced, see [[Talk:One-time_pad/Permission]], and I did not change anything much, so I'm not sure that matches policy. I'm new here, figured I should ask rather than guess, especially since there's already one other from the same source [[Discrete logarithm]] and I expect to do many more. [[User:Sandy Harris|Sandy Harris]] 13:22, 16 January 2008 (CST)
 
== I shall simply *have* to remember.... ==
 
...to start bugging you about the [[CZ:monthly write-a-thon|PARTIES]] earlier!  Ciao!  [[User:Aleta Curry|Aleta Curry]] 15:43, 6 February 2008 (CST)
 
== Canis Major ==
 
Please ignore - it occurred to me I just needed to redirect it: Hi, Alexx.  The article [[Canis Maior]] has been superseded by [[Canis Major]] & now needs to be deleted.  Merci mil fois, [[User:Ro Thorpe|Ro Thorpe]] 14:54, 14 February 2008 (CST)
 
== CZ International ==
 
Hi!  I’m just letting people who have expressed an interest in CZ International know that there is now a proposal on the table.
 
Please discuss its feasibility at: [[CZ:Proposals/Internationalisation sandbox]] in the Discussion area.
 
Feel free to help develop the proposal, as well.
 
We'll also need "drivers".
 
If you've got no idea what I'm talking about, please refer to: [[CZ:Proposals/New]] and [[CZ:Proposals]]
 
[[User:Aleta Curry|Aleta Curry]] 18:06, 14 February 2008 (CST)
 
 
== unchecklisted ==
How long is the unchecklisted articles list getting to be?  It has been nearly a month since you reloaded it. [[User:David E. Volk|David E. Volk]] 16:55, 31 March 2008 (CDT)
:I'm terribly sorry...I've been extremely busy these days... I'll be updating the list as soon as possible. See you there :) [[User:Aleksander Stos|Aleksander Stos]] 12:11, 2 April 2008 (CDT)
 
== Dog breeds ==
 
Hi Aleks!
 
Trying to catch up on stuff (oh, aren't we all) and I saw some comments you left at [[talk:Dog breed#Wikipedia credit]] over a year ago.
 
I don't exactly know how you did the comparison, but I did some rewriting anyway, and if that was all that remains of concern, we should be able to removed to WP notice now.  (Like you, I don't think we should have WP notices if there is very little text that is the same, this should just be removed.)
 
FYI the phrase "breeding true" is ''de minimis'' in my opinion, and it remains.
 
Thanks!
 
[[User:Aleta Curry|Aleta Curry]] 18:13, 4 April 2008 (CDT)
 
:Hi! I did quite a stupid mechanical computer-aided comparison statement by statement. This was intended as  a help to Authors to determine the status. Well, its up to them (you, perhaps) to see what the similarities mean, a computer can not decide this! Neither me; in most cases I'm just a messenger, mechanically checking the box until a human can resolve the issue. I'm tempted to agree with you. Cheers, [[User:Aleksander Stos|Aleksander Stos]] 05:01, 5 April 2008 (CDT)
 
== unchecklisted ==
I don't see on the list now.  I may gotten them all last night or you reorganized it.  What was happening is that people fixed one and crossed it off the list or removed it, but left the second listing. So that I would go back over the same work.  I found at least 15 that were repeated on the list last night as I went thru it and deleted both versions.  If the list is automatically generated, we should clear the list before running the program again to update it. [[User:David E. Volk|David E. Volk]] 08:43, 6 May 2008 (CDT)
 
==Edit Counter==
 
I just noticed this when I was investigating the possibilities regarding a monobook.js page for my account. You invited comments, so I thought I'd let you know the results of my count. As of now, I have made a total of [http://en.citizendium.org/wiki?title=Special:Contributions&dir=prev&limit=115&contribs=user&target=Mal+McKee&namespace=0 115 edits to (Main) space]. The output from the script suggests I have made 65.
 
All edits: 129
Edits to articles: 65 that is 50.4 % (discussions not included)
 
I appreciate that there may be some kind of lag between updates of records, though I haven't a clue if this is correct. The total count of 129 [http://en.citizendium.org/wiki?title=Special:Contributions&limit=129&contribs=user&target=Mal+McKee appears to be correct,] so perhaps the sub-page edits aren't included in the "edits to articles". I hope this information is useful to you in any case.
 
By the way, is there any information as to what js functionality is available to us? --[[User:Mal McKee|Mal McKee]] 14:27, 23 May 2008 (CDT)
 
:Thanks a lot for the example. I'll look at it. In fact, it's an old script, should be updated. I don't know much about availability of js. At some stage I used a version of Lupin's popups with some "plug-ins" but it didn't work too well and finally I gave up.. :| [[User:Aleksander Stos|Aleksander Stos]] 16:23, 24 May 2008 (CDT)
 
Hi again! It looks like the output of the script was correct: you appear to have 66 (then 65) edits to the articles, see e.g.  [http://en.citizendium.org/wiki?title=Special:Contributions&dir=prev&limit=65&contribs=user&target=Mal+McKee&namespace=0 this link]. Happy editing! [[User:Aleksander Stos|Aleksander Stos]] 09:44, 26 May 2008 (CDT)
 
== Computer code ==
 
Alek, I opened a discussion http://forum.citizendium.org/index.php/topic,1742.0.html on code submission. I like to hear your opinion, too. --[[User:Paul Wormer|Paul Wormer]] 09:45, 27 May 2008 (CDT)
 
== Stats for Biology Week ==
 
Hi Aleksander, is it possible that you track the usual stats additionally for the duration of [[CZ:Biology Week|Biology Week]]? This would probably help in planning further Workgroup weeks and optimizing our recruitment, mentoring etc. Basically, this amounts to creating a dump at the beginning and end of that week and to adapt the stat timelines. If you need help, please let me or Supten know. Thanks! [[User:Daniel Mietchen|Daniel Mietchen]] 03:54, 20 September 2008 (CDT)
:Cool if no additional dumps are needed and things can be filtered out later. I would like to see the following things (preferably both in absolute and relative terms, i.e. biology vs. CZ totals) during Biology Week and comparable weeks, e.g. the weeks after the August, September and October Write-a-thons:
:* Number of (biology) authors
:* Number of (biology) editors
:* Number of edits by (biology) editors
:* Number of (biology) articles started
:* Number of (biology) articles edited
:* Delay between user page creation and first edit for (biology) authors
:* Delay between user page creation and first edit for (biology) editors
:* Mean delay until 10th, 100th and 1000th edit (if available) for (biology) authors
:* Mean delay until 10th, 100th and 1000th edit (if available) for (biology) editors
:* Number of (biology) authors with no edits in the main namespace
:* Number of (biology) editors with no edits in the main namespace
:Dzięki! [[User:Daniel Mietchen|Daniel Mietchen]] 06:12, 28 September 2008 (CDT)
::It would also be good to have stats that show the impact of the [[CZ:Write-a-thon]]s, e.g. by comparing the first with the third Wednesday (or the average day) of a month. Thanks, [[User:Daniel Mietchen|Daniel Mietchen]] 10:41, 29 September 2008 (CDT)
:Well, I shall think about automating such stats, but it may take a while. For the moment, most important answers [[CZ:Biology Workgroup/Biology Week|were given]]... [[User:Aleksander Stos|Aleksander Stos]] 07:47, 3 October 2008 (CDT)
::OK. Yes, automation would probably be good. Thanks. [[User:Daniel Mietchen|Daniel Mietchen]] 10:14, 3 October 2008 (CDT)
 
===Anything to Add?===
I note that you did an edit or two to [[Democrat Party (phrase)]]. This was done originally by Richard Jensen, who is no longer with us, and appears to me to be a very fair and balanced presentation of the issue. I'm going to nominate it for approval and wanted to let you know in case you have anything to add.
[[User:Roger Lohmann|Roger Lohmann]] 23:20, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

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