User talk:Petréa Mitchell

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No disagreement

Hey, I wouldn't say that we disagree with your ideas about usability. We're just all so busy we don't even have time for our own stuff (look at User:J. Noel Chiappa/ToDo for stuff I proposed months ago and haven't gotten to writing up yet - I'm just now getting around to writing CZ:Article structure which I said I'd do months ago)! I saw your note about your usability sub-page, skimmed it quickly and didn't see anything I wildly disagreed with, then added it to my watchlist so I could get to it at some point and comment, and just haven't gotten back to it yet. I have a related thing I want to push, readability (sigh, didn't have time to even add that one to the ToDo list), and structural changes to make sure our articles are readable by non-specialists (there's a thread on the forums, don't have time to find it). J. Noel Chiappa 13:45, 17 April 2008 (CDT)

Well, there seems to be plenty of spare time available to debate subpage types but no will to actually approve them. Several people had time to create a new public skin which makes things worse. So insofar as design work has been done, I think it is fair to conclude Citizendium's official stance is to not take usability seriously.

It should be noted that this is hardly unusual on the Web, and I'm sure one could compile a list of many respectable professional organizations that feel likewise. Petréa Mitchell 22:15, 20 April 2008 (CDT)

Wha...?

Petrea, I'm stunned to find that you are so dismayed over this issue that you're leaving, because I was not aware of any serious problems.

Not that I'm the be-all and end-all of conflict solving by any means, but I think that conflict so serious, whatever it is, but especially if it is a project-wide issue as this seems to be, should be brought to the attention of the community-at-large, so the issues can be made clear before people start leaving over them.

Aleta Curry 18:31, 17 April 2008 (CDT)

I looked for a way to do that. Starting from CZ:Home, trying to find a place to bring things to the community at large, I was stumped. Looking at it, there's no obvious place within CZ. There's not even an obvious place to ask where to find something like that. The forums? An e-mail list? A blog comment? What percentage of the community actually reads any of those? In the end, the skin feedback page was the only place I could think of where it would be relatively on-topic. Petréa Mitchell 22:20, 20 April 2008 (CDT)